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Poster: reviewr Date: Jun 8, 2012 9:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Reckoning

So, before the vault was opened we only had a hand full of live GD recordings. "Live Dead" and the original "E '72" are excellent, but let's not overlook "Reckoning". I know about the acoustic 9/20/70, but "Reckoning" is really an exceptional collection of acoustic music that seems so be forgotten.

Can I get a "hell ya!" for "Reckoning"?

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Jun 9, 2012 10:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reckoning

how about a fuck yea!?

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jun 8, 2012 9:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reckoning

The GD CD I have played the most, by far. Whether a picnic, road trip or getting ready for dinner it's a CD that everyone can at least tolerate.

Dire Wolf, The Race Is On, Dark Hollow, China Doll, Been All Around This World, Cassidy, To Lay Me Down and Rosa Lee McFall are all suburb. The CD's flows nicely and the songs not mentioned are no slouches either. It's a great CD that you don't need to skip over one song. Great converter material.

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Jun 9, 2012 5:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reckoning

I'm calling you out Professor: " are all suburb." We'll infer you meant superb, since one can never accuse the GD of being suburban. ;-) Agree with your post.

BTW, the disk is somewhat unique for "The Race is On" and "Dark Hollow" - these are not big staples in the GD diet, nice to have a taste once in a while.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jun 9, 2012 8:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reckoning

See what happens when you post late at night. You are indeed correct, and I thank you. I won't even edit it. I'll just blame my keyboard that is down to half the keys showing the letter/number/thingy. It's time has long since come.

I haven't forgotten you uj. I don't think you are sweating blood, but it's just good to know anyway. I hope you are well and May was successful.

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Poster: yesss! Date: Jun 9, 2012 12:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reckoning

great record. an excellent collection of warm and cozy material that is played well and sounds amazing (brent on acoustic piano is a big bonus). it is "great converter material" because the production is simple and inoffensive and devoid of era-specific signifiers (no synth!), the songs are well arranged and relatively jam-free (cassidy and birdsong have jams but they are succinct and exciting), and it's comfy campfire vibe is warm and welcoming to a wide variety of listeners- many of whom would not tolerate a bootleg from '68 or '73 or '82 OR a regular studio dead album. it's like an "easy listening" dead record, featuring their most hummable and heart warming numbers alongside some nice nostalgic covers in a palatably well-sequenced set. and i don't know how the idea to play and record these acoustic sets came about, but it was brilliant marketing in that it essentially helped to rebrand the band- who, at the time, were spending night after silky, silky, crazy, crazy night cranking out greasy versions of shakedown street and passenger to diminishing numbers of drugged out freaks- as laid-back down-home good old boys. it reminded people that the good old grateful dead that they knew from american beauty and workingman's dead (a simpler time) were still truckin'.

so,yeah, great record. and, as micah6vs8 points out- perfect for a picnic or road trip. i have done a lot of traveling in the past few years and both "reckoning" and garcia acoustic band's "almost acoustic" (another under-appreciated album) got a lot of play on the road. welcome sounds to road-worn ears.

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Poster: N Hoey Date: Jun 9, 2012 1:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reckoning

Well it isn't entirely without signifiers, at least to me anyway. If you listen to the 1970 acoustic stuff, their vintage Martin guitars are miked. It sounds like real guitars in a natural acoustic space. Of course that setup is much more difficult to deal with as far as volume and feedback problems with the monitors etc. but it does sound warmer and more euphonic when dialed in.

In 1980 they had those Takamine acoustics that had an internal pickup. Both Dave Nelson and Dave Grisman in interviews expressed some frustration with Jerry's preference for the Takamine throughout the 80s and would always be pushing him to play his vintage Martin instead. As Grisman says, "he was using these extra-light strings that sounded like rubber bands, practically".
Yep. That is why I can't quite warm up to the 1980 acoustic stuff. Well that and Hart's congas...

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 10, 2012 11:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reckoning: finally receives its reckoning!

I kept biting my tongue, holding back...holding back...no, I will NOT be the nay sayer here, I will not chime in with the usual "are you kidding?" (better than 1970). It's not just the vocals this time, or the youthful energy, it's the frickin GUITARS!!!

Thanks for pointing out this HUGE problem...never could play the thing thru...yikes. Mind you, this was IN the early 80s, as the live albums of 1980/81 (whatever it was) were my last purchases before my hiatus of 82-05, so it wasn't because I'd become the myopic "early era is better fanatic" as you all know me...

Blah.

Sorry, raining on EVERYONE's parade it seems.

NOTHING personal all you lovers of latter acoustic stuff!

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Jun 11, 2012 7:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reckoning: finally receives its reckoning!

I'll back you up here - when I first heard this record I was a little taken aback. The guitar sound is twangy, like "rubber bands". No one would compare this to 70s GD, or claim it as good or better... but in hindsight, this is still a cool album to put on... it's Jerry getting back to his roots, in the midst of all those "silky, crazy nights. As I've noted, this is Brent's finest IMO... but they sure could have done without the lackadaisical Monkey and the Engineer - what a piece of drivel.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 11, 2012 10:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reckoning: finally receives its reckoning!

Thanks for understanding, uj; really felt bad about that one...ie, being negative and all, what with how happy, upbeat and down right warm and fuzzy the Forum has been, who needs that, ya know? But, I yam what I yam, as they say.

I didn't know at the time, even though my DEAD coverband experience should've clued me right away, but it all made a lot of sense when I heard explanations/comments later (it really points out how the techno aspects can have v lg effects, eh? Seriously; something that would seem almost trivial at one level...).

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Poster: yesss! Date: Jun 9, 2012 11:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reckoning

yeah, i agree on the miked guitars sounding warmer and more live on the recordings from '70 (can't argue with a vintage martin). and the sound quality on "reckoning" is noticeably from a later era as well. but, to the average listener, the overall sound of "reckoning" is far more neutral than most other GD recordings. "anthem" is clearly from the psychedelic '60's, "shakedown st." is clearly from the disco era, etc, but "reckoning", with it's traditional acoustic instrumentation and no-frills production, doesn't intentionally align itself with any temporary trend. i think that electric keyboards and electric guitars, which can sound radically different depending on the technology, tend to be far easier to date than acoustic instruments. but, yeah, garcia's "acoustic" guitar was essentially an electric in the 80's. not as rich sounding, but probably a lot easier to play.

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Jun 9, 2012 11:42am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reckoning

"The GD CD I have played the most, by far."

Same here. While it's not my favorite (that would have to go to the Fillmore West release), it seems I've been in the mood for Reckoning more often than any other release. The show has such an intimate feeling, like Jerry and the boys are right there with you, just playin' away casually and having a good time. Reckoning always put me in a great mood.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jun 10, 2012 12:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reckoning

Me too.

Partly, in terms of sheer number of plays, it would be the undoubted winner because it was around when the pickings were slimmer. (Plus, yeah, it's true that it's a CD that "everyone can at least tolerate.")

But it's also just a great CD. That's probably one reason why Cassidy and Bird Song just sound best to me acoustic; there was a time when I played Reckoning a lot (and didn't have much else), and just got to love how those sound in acoustic.

Plus, it has the undoubted positive influence of Otis :-)

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jun 9, 2012 11:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reckoning

Carl Van Loon I presume? Do you know the movie? (excellent flick) I've been waiting to use this one for a while so I'm full of anticipation. It takes so little to make me happy.

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Jun 9, 2012 12:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reckoning

Limitless? I was pleasantly surprised by that film. The trailers made it look like garbage, but not so. Definitely a fun thriller. Did you hear about my apartment? I guess I'm better at acting than doing laundry?

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/fire_breaks_out_at_robert_de_niro_3pt9JYCyUAMt7RI31cNZLP

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jun 9, 2012 12:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reckoning

Bingo. An actual movie that is solid throughout.

Sorry about the apartment. What the hell are the maids not doing? Maybe they were sparking up in the laundry room?

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Jun 10, 2012 1:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Brent never sounded better...

than he does on this recording! If he played and sounded like this throughout his GD career, I would hold him in much higher esteem. The Bird Song is magnificent, short and sweet.

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Poster: Old_NJ_Head_Zimmer Date: Jun 9, 2012 8:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reckoning

Big hell yea

To lay me down just floors me every time

And it's been many many times

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Poster: capsgd Date: Jun 9, 2012 8:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reckoning

this was the LP that made me think I was done with the GD
I was shocked at how gruff Garcia voice sounded and how he struggled hitting vocal notes in "Bird Songs"
through the aud. collection here- I found many 80 shows that seemed better..but they didn't have the multi-tracks there I guess.

77' in Denver was the last time I'd heard them...73' Philly was the first.
now my cut off is around 83-84 I've heard a couple in 85' that shine, but have yet to hear anything passed 87' that doesn't seem depressingly/off.
just my opinion...nothing more or less.

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Jun 9, 2012 7:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reckoning

Greetings from Nogambo, Sri Lanka!

I finally picked up a strong wi-fi signal at a bar called "Rodeo". I knew I was in the right place when they were playing the New Riders "Six Days on the Road" but I'll tell you, it feels like a lot longer then that and I just got here!

I think the Grateful Dead's 1980 wooden music is woefully neglected! I love the bonus tracks on the Reckoning remaster, and I'd consider donating a kidney for a box of the Saenger Theater shows!

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jun 9, 2012 8:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reckoning

Holy crap. I was going to reach out, but I figured you were busy. Be well D.. I'll shoot you an email.

btw- I bet it's not hard to find an excellent black curry. Burn a small hole in your insides yet? :-)

This post was modified by micah6vs8 on 2012-06-09 15:27:06

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Jun 9, 2012 8:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reckoning

Just got here this morning, 20+ hours through Abu Dabi. Just feeling my way around today. A few nice jumbo Bigeye Tuna, cuisine is not as hot as Sigiri. Huge prawns and lots of Lion Lager. Hoping to go on a Leopard safari later this month. I'll keep you posted..

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jun 10, 2012 12:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reckoning

Hey, welcome to (roughly) my time zone!

The beach sounds darned nice right about now. We have it hot (albeit not Sri Lanka hot) minus the sand and waves. A balmy 95 degrees.

Good luck with the leopard spotting. I've done a couple of elephant-back safaris, which is really fun, but never seen tigers; rhinos and wild boar and other interesting critters, but big cats are pretty elusive. My husband has seen tigers, but not me. Maybe some time.

(Though not this time of year! It's 112 right now where tigers are found; I'm sure they're all sensibly resting in the shade, LOL.)

Enjoy your trip, and get over jet lag soon :-)

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Jun 10, 2012 6:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reckoning

Actually not so hot now. Monsoon season here, heavy overcast with a breeze. Still enjoying the beach, beer and prawns!

I've seen big cats in Kenya and Tanzania, including a couple of Leopards, but I'm really hoping to get to Yala later in the month to see some Leopards!

Stay cool in Kathmandu!

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jun 10, 2012 6:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reckoning

Yala, eh? Yala is an ancient name for the area of Kathmandu where I live. No leopards, but definitely a lot of sculptures of lions or lion-ish creatures. I gather there's another Yala in Sri Lanka :-)

Will work at staying cool. Had electricity all day, which was nice since I'm a slave to the computer on a deadline project ... the electricity just went, sadly, and with it the fan. Ah well, at least it's evening! (For us, if not for the time stamp on the forum ...)

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Poster: huntr Date: Jun 11, 2012 4:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reckoning

love it.. always have

my first copy was a "for the faithful"

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Poster: jerrys beard Date: Jun 9, 2012 12:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reckoning

Golly gee gosh yeah! My grandkids love "Monkey..."

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Poster: BryanE Date: Jun 12, 2012 3:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reckoning

Hell ya you can get a hell ya! for Reckoning.

It takes me way back to the freshman dorms in college. Heads were just so blown away by that one when it came out. It ranged from rowdy (The Race Is On) to reflective (To Lay Me Down) to a relaxing rocket into outer space (Bird Song) to . . . well, to Ripple.

Righteous ol' Reckoning, in a class all its own!

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Poster: yilano Date: Jun 12, 2012 5:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reckoning

Reckoning is a 1981 live double album by the Grateful Dead. It consists of acoustic material recorded live in September and October 1980. Some of the tracks are shortened versions of the live performances.

So check out some shows from 1980. You can find great acoustic songs by the Dead from that time period.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 13, 2012 7:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reckoning

WTF?

Three yrs between posts?

This is an all time first!

And I thought you did it just to be contrarywise to my "guitar problem" post...

;)

Good to see ya dude.

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Poster: BryanE Date: Jun 13, 2012 7:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reckoning

WT, I'm having trouble trying to remember what I had for breakfast this morning, let alone what I might have been thinking long those (kinda, sorta) many years ago, way back in '09. But if I said anything then that was mean or snide or otherwise got up anyone's back side, please allow me to throw myself on the mercy of the court and offer an olive branch. I suppose, though, that I should at least take some pride in raising the WTF bar around here. Maybe an email to the Guinness people is in order.

It was cosmic charlie who coaxed me back here where the wind don't blow so strange. And thank you for welcoming me. I appreciate it. It's nice to be home. :)

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 13, 2012 8:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reckoning

Ha, sorry, B, major "wires crossed" there! I was joking about my negative comment above about reckoning, that's all!

No worries at all--can't believe how long it's been; recall we shared Who/DEAD that October of 1976, and who knows which other shows, eh?

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Poster: BryanE Date: Jun 13, 2012 9:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reckoning

Naw, naw, just messin' here, too, man. That's just my penchant for the melodramatic rearing its ugly head as usual. But I admit it had slipped my mind that you were at Oakland Coliseum that day, too. More than 35 years ago, the first concert I ever saw, and still the best, with the possible exception of Weir singing "The sun's gonna shine in my back door someday" in a thunderstorm at Edwardsville, IL in '80. You didn't happen to get drenched that night with uis, as well, did you?

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jun 13, 2012 6:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reckoning

Welcome back stranger. Hope you decide to stick around for a bit.

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Poster: BryanE Date: Jun 14, 2012 2:56am
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Thank you, elbow. It's good to be back! Funny thing is, though, I don't . . . ( . . . wait for it . . . wait for it . . . ) . . . feel like a stranger.



sorry. way too hard to resist

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Poster: BVD Date: Jun 8, 2012 10:50pm
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Wonderful album. I like how they can still get out there on certain songs like Cassidy and Bird Song while playing acoustic. It's amazing to me that Garcia can maintain the same tone electric or acoustic. Listened to it a few days ago, never disappoints.

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Poster: CHARLIEPHOGG Date: Jun 9, 2012 8:13pm
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hell yeah

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Poster: CHARLIEPHOGG Date: Jun 9, 2012 8:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reckoning

Hell yeah! Always great to listen to after all these years!!

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Poster: fireeagle Date: Jun 9, 2012 2:33pm
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sure

1 of 2 greatest acoustic albums ever recorded by any band; the other 1 is hot tuna 1st

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Poster: user unknown Date: Jun 9, 2012 4:49am
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Hell yea!

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